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Echoes Wall Rock Climbing
Routes in Echoes Wall
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Cocaine Country Dancing T 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b |
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Echoes T 5.11- 6c 22 VIII- 22 E3 5c |
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Granny's Back in Prison T 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a |
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Levitation 69 T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b |
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Rainbow Tea Time T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a |
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Unknown T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b |
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| Elevation: | 5,443 ft | 1,659 m |
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2024 Raptor Avoidance Areas (LIFTED 9/10/2024)- The Wall, Far Side, The Meat Walls, Cliffs of Insanity, Public Service Wall, Disappointment Cliffs, Fin Wall, Broken Tooth, Cat Wall, Slug Wall, and Reservoir Wall. See map in photos section.
Each spring raptors return to the Indian Creek area for nesting. Eagles, falcons, hawks, and other migratory birds use shallow depressions on ledges, cliffs and rock walls to build nests, often returning to the same site year after year to raise their young. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) requests that visitors and recreationists avoid these areas during critical nesting periods which typically start in early March and last through late August. Avoiding recreational activity in the vicinity of the nest sites along and maintaining a safe viewing distance will help ensure survival of young birds.
Beginning March 1, the public is asked to avoid climbing in areas that are historically known to have raptor nesting activity or have a high potential for nesting. Areas that have potential nesting activity are referred to in many climbing guidebooks as: The Wall, Far Side, The Meat Walls, Cliffs of Insanity, Public Service Wall, Disappointment Cliffs, Fin Wall, Broken Tooth, Cat Wall, Slug Wall, Reservoir Wall and Critic’s Choice. While this list serves as a guide, it does not indicate every avoidance area or encompass all known names of the affected climbing areas. Please refer to the provided “Raptor Protection Map” to identify avoidance areas. The BLM is coordinating these raptor protection efforts with the Utah School and Institutional Trust Lands Administration, who is the administrator of the climbing areas known as Disappointment Cliffs and portions of the Second Meat Wall climbing area. The avoidance areas only cover a portion of Disappointment Cliffs, see the map for additional details.
In March, BLM biologists will begin the annual surveys of raptor activity to verify which historic nest sites are being used. Typically, by late April or early May, biologists can identify the nesting areas the raptors have selected. At that time the areas without active nests will be cleared for recreational use. The BLM requests that climbers, campers, and hikers completely avoid areas with active nests until the young birds have fledged, which is usually by late summer. Biologists will monitor nesting activity throughout the season and keep the recreation community informed of potential changes. Avoidance area notices and maps will be posted throughout the Indian Creek Corridor during the recreation season.
While falcons and eagles are not overly common sights in southeastern Utah, they are present throughout the area and keen-eyed observers are sometimes rewarded with their aerial acrobatics. Visitors can watch adult birds hunt or observe the antics of young raptors perfecting their flying techniques. These species in Utah continue to recover from low population levels, thanks in part to cooperation from the public, climbing communities and governmental partners. The BLM would like to remind the public there are private land holdings throughout the Indian Creek Corridor. Please respect private landowners’ boundaries and signage.
For questions about this avoidance areas, raptors, and migratory bird habitat in the Monticello area, please contact Rachel Wootton with the BLM Monticello Field Office at 435-587-1500. Persons who use a telecommunications device for the deaf (TTY) may call 711 to leave a message or question. The TTY Relay System is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Replies are provided during normal business hours.
blm.gov/announcement/blm-an…
saltlakeclimbers.org/news/2…
2024 Raptor Avoidance Areas (LIFTED 9/10/2024)- The Wall, Far Side, The Meat Walls, Cliffs of Insanity, Public Service Wall, Disappointment Cliffs, Fin Wall, Broken Tooth, Cat Wall, Slug Wall, and Reservoir Wall. See map in photos section.
Each spring raptors return to the Indian Creek area for nesting. Eagles, falcons, hawks, and other migratory birds use shallow depressions on ledges, cliffs and rock walls to build nests, often returning to the same site year after year to raise their young. The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) requests that visitors and recreationists avoid these areas during critical nesting periods which typically start in early March and last through late August. Avoiding recreational activity in the vicinity of the nest sites along and maintaining a safe viewing distance will help ensure survival of young birds.
Beginning March 1, the public is asked to avoid climbing in areas that are historically known to have raptor nesting activity or have a high potential for nesting. Areas that have potential nesting activity are referred to in many climbing guidebooks as: The Wall, Far Side, The Meat Walls, Cliffs of Insanity, Public Service Wall, Disappointment Cliffs, Fin Wall, Broken Tooth, Cat Wall, Slug Wall, Reservoir Wall and Critic’s Choice. While this list serves as a guide, it does not indicate every avoidance area or encompass all known names of the affected climbing areas. Please refer to the provided “Raptor Protection Map” to identify avoidance areas. The BLM is coordinating these raptor protection efforts with the Utah School and Institutional Trust Lands Administration, who is the administrator of the climbing areas known as Disappointment Cliffs and portions of the Second Meat Wall climbing area. The avoidance areas only cover a portion of Disappointment Cliffs, see the map for additional details.
In March, BLM biologists will begin the annual surveys of raptor activity to verify which historic nest sites are being used. Typically, by late April or early May, biologists can identify the nesting areas the raptors have selected. At that time the areas without active nests will be cleared for recreational use. The BLM requests that climbers, campers, and hikers completely avoid areas with active nests until the young birds have fledged, which is usually by late summer. Biologists will monitor nesting activity throughout the season and keep the recreation community informed of potential changes. Avoidance area notices and maps will be posted throughout the Indian Creek Corridor during the recreation season.
While falcons and eagles are not overly common sights in southeastern Utah, they are present throughout the area and keen-eyed observers are sometimes rewarded with their aerial acrobatics. Visitors can watch adult birds hunt or observe the antics of young raptors perfecting their flying techniques. These species in Utah continue to recover from low population levels, thanks in part to cooperation from the public, climbing communities and governmental partners. The BLM would like to remind the public there are private land holdings throughout the Indian Creek Corridor. Please respect private landowners’ boundaries and signage.
For questions about this avoidance areas, raptors, and migratory bird habitat in the Monticello area, please contact Rachel Wootton with the BLM Monticello Field Office at 435-587-1500. Persons who use a telecommunications device for the deaf (TTY) may call 711 to leave a message or question. The TTY Relay System is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Replies are provided during normal business hours.
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Access Issue: RAIN, WET ROCK and RAPTOR CLOSURES: The sandstone around Moab is fragile and is very easily damaged when it is wet. Also please ask and be aware of Raptor Closures in areas such as CAT WALL and RESERVOIR WALL in Indian Creek
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WET ROCK: Holds rip off and climbs have been and will continue to be permanently damaged due to climbers not respecting this phenomenon. After a heavy storm the rock will remain wet, sometimes for several days. PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB IN MOAB during or after rain.
RAPTOR CLOSURES: please be aware of seasonal raptor closures. They occur annually in the spring.
RAPTOR CLOSURES: please be aware of seasonal raptor closures. They occur annually in the spring.
Description
Karl Kelley declares this wall having "not much going on". He's right, but there's maybe a bit more going on than what is shown in Creek Freak.
Echoes is the wall located directly above the Wall/Suburbia parking area. It has the shortest approach of the 3 crags accessed from there, and gets early morning shade. Echoes is often closed each spring for falcons, though not usually listed in the closure by name as it's fairly obscure - reference the map instead.
It's possible to walk between Echoes and The Wall - in fact, the leftmost routes listed on the Wall (Big Papa Bear, Blue Jasmin) are certainly better approached via Echoes. The stretch between Blue Jasmin and the Wall is loose with no trail and generally a PITA to walk.
In Spring 2021, Echoes is clearly marked as closed on the BLM falcon closure map. Please respect this.
Echoes is the wall located directly above the Wall/Suburbia parking area. It has the shortest approach of the 3 crags accessed from there, and gets early morning shade. Echoes is often closed each spring for falcons, though not usually listed in the closure by name as it's fairly obscure - reference the map instead.
It's possible to walk between Echoes and The Wall - in fact, the leftmost routes listed on the Wall (Big Papa Bear, Blue Jasmin) are certainly better approached via Echoes. The stretch between Blue Jasmin and the Wall is loose with no trail and generally a PITA to walk.
In Spring 2021, Echoes is clearly marked as closed on the BLM falcon closure map. Please respect this.
Getting There
Park as for The Wall and Suburbia - i.e., take a right directly across from Super Bowl if heading north, then take the first left, then a right. You'll park below an old uranium mine.
Please exercise prudence to follow the cairns and STAY ON THE PATH to approach Echoes. This trail is fairly new, and a great opportunity to make sure there won't be a braided network through the crypto a few years down the line. There are points where the path is faint, but never invisible - you may not be able to mindlessly march like a lot of Creek approaches, but with an abundance of cairns, footprints, and rocks lining the edges, it's not hard to follow.
Follow the old road up from the lot, past the mine, up onto a small bench. The path follows a small wash through some impressive crypto, before scrambling steeply up a short, loose talus slope. Once on top this, the path becomes more defined and pleasant before arriving at the wall directly below Cocaine Country Dancing, currently the leftmost route.
Please exercise prudence to follow the cairns and STAY ON THE PATH to approach Echoes. This trail is fairly new, and a great opportunity to make sure there won't be a braided network through the crypto a few years down the line. There are points where the path is faint, but never invisible - you may not be able to mindlessly march like a lot of Creek approaches, but with an abundance of cairns, footprints, and rocks lining the edges, it's not hard to follow.
Follow the old road up from the lot, past the mine, up onto a small bench. The path follows a small wash through some impressive crypto, before scrambling steeply up a short, loose talus slope. Once on top this, the path becomes more defined and pleasant before arriving at the wall directly below Cocaine Country Dancing, currently the leftmost route.
Classic Climbing Routes at Echoes Wall
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