Can we change the grade on this route... This route is clearly Grade III+. Grade II by definition is less than half day and this route is a full very long day.

You might want to update the Wyoming Whiskey image of the western aspect with a newer one found at the bottom of this page:

http://wyomingwhiskey.blogspot.com/p/grand-teton.html

Or use any other image from the web. A newer image that looks the same has an updated website address and some minor changes. There are other images, too.

We have a copyright notice on our marked-up images but that's only for abusive image-sharing websites that are unrelated to climbing and are looking for click-bait. All our images may be edited, including erasing any reference to our blog. We never ask for attribution or demand permission to use any of our images on climbing websites, blogs, etc. Our goal is to get people up and off the Grand as safely as possible without spending unnecessary money or time doing so.

Lastly, we changed our website from wyomingwhiskey.org to wyomingwhiskey.blogspot.com. We don't care if the newer link is shown here but the old link needs to go.

The reason we changed our address was to allow the information to remain in the public domain long after we leave this grand adventure.

BTW, great job on the beta.

cheers,

Upper Exum isn't 12 pitches. More like 6.

If 12, then the grade would be III or IV, not II.

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